tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post5962630799550410285..comments2023-12-18T09:58:17.070+00:00Comments on Thoughts of a Depressive Diplomatist: More on Depression. And CancerDiplomatisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04154642903216207181noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-54653258475619524222014-08-24T13:18:54.123+01:002014-08-24T13:18:54.123+01:00Hello Edwin:
A belated thanks for this post. Dep...Hello Edwin:<br /><br />A belated thanks for this post. Depression and suicide are finally getting the exposure they need in the Canadian military, and for that I'm grateful, even though we still lose too many people to it .. well, even one is too many. I have a little experience with depression. My dear wife functions well because of medication, and has for decades. For some people it's a simple matter of neurochemistry, imbalances of certain levels of naturally occurring materials in the brain that can be corrected due to medicine. For some it's a temporary condition, for others, like my wife, a permanent one. Often I tend to see depression as a crisis of meaning - separation from a loved one who has died is one cause. Other causes of loss of meaning are loss of health (it's not a coincidence, I think, that Robin Williams had been recently diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease), separation from a job and social network that gives meaning is another, which is why I see so many military people struggling when they are involuntarily released from the tight bonds of military life through forced retirement or early release because of medical issues, redundancies, etc. Suddenly the social world and self image that gave them purpose are gone, and they have nothing else to focus a meaningful life on.<br />I find that hobbies and social activities are hugely beneficial in giving meaning to life. I see that in wargaming and the other groups I've been part of, cycling, running, etc. The encouragement of friends, the sense of mastering a skill, are all helpful. I am so grateful for the encouragement and friendship I see in the hobby blogosphere. I wish I could read and comment every single post on every single blog, because we all need the connection with others, even with those we've never met.<br />Finally, on a religious note, as I am a clergyman, I think the churches are finally coming to terms with suicide as an illness and not as a sin. Mental illness, depression and suicidal thoughts are no different than cancer or any other type of illness. They deserve loving support and attention, not condemnation. Mad Padrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00410143683610813671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-33200287232139286742014-08-21T11:11:58.948+01:002014-08-21T11:11:58.948+01:00Excellent post! I know far too many that have trie...Excellent post! I know far too many that have tried to take their own lives, unfortunately some succeeded! Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14447816347472085277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-14968664688409759082014-08-20T23:02:01.504+01:002014-08-20T23:02:01.504+01:00Oops, yep, no fires in Purgatory! Basil Foster Buc...Oops, yep, no fires in Purgatory! Basil Foster Buckley (St Ignatius, Salford [High Church Anglican] from about 1930 to 1974-ish) would have had my guts for that.<br /><br />Yes, that last bit. It's becoming quite fashionable among the glitterati in a variety of circles to claim to be suffering from depression. In the past year or so I can think of several alleged celebs and also some friends (of friends) who've laid claim to the illness while 'confessing to a journalist or a sympathetic audience. When I hear the wail "I'm just so depressed", I can barely resist the urge to reach for the veg knife.GaryAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06963552380378929829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-20300190115770079252014-08-20T21:59:13.202+01:002014-08-20T21:59:13.202+01:00Very thoughtful, very powerful. My neighbor was t...Very thoughtful, very powerful. My neighbor was the nicest guy you'd ever meet. He killed himself one night and his kids came home to find that. I think about all of them quite a lot and how they've had to hold up. Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16094254709103687259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-11808229164720499472014-08-20T20:54:23.545+01:002014-08-20T20:54:23.545+01:00Don't worry mate, I'm fine!Don't worry mate, I'm fine!Diplomatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04154642903216207181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-90216980353609611462014-08-20T20:51:15.552+01:002014-08-20T20:51:15.552+01:00I don't quite understand the bit at the end, b...I don't quite understand the bit at the end, but I agree whole-heartedly with the rest. Having said that, wearing my theological hat, I'd like to point out that there aren't any fires in purgatory (that's one of the Other Places!).<br /><br />For me suicide has never been about courage or cowardliness. It's a stage of despair and hopelessness, when there's nothing else left.Diplomatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04154642903216207181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-14488245130191735622014-08-20T20:42:30.524+01:002014-08-20T20:42:30.524+01:00Don't do it Anne.
As one who's been there...Don't do it Anne.<br /><br />As one who's been there, didn't quite make it and then saw the hassle it'd caused everyone. I'd say it's not worth it. Diplomatisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04154642903216207181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-90423511543930880522014-08-20T20:37:07.628+01:002014-08-20T20:37:07.628+01:00Thanks for taking the time to mull over the subjec...Thanks for taking the time to mull over the subject of depression.<br /><br />Very well put.<br /><br />Darrell.Bedfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04363108327445559579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-75697176071716895392014-08-20T20:12:38.288+01:002014-08-20T20:12:38.288+01:00Another good, and thoughtful post. For a minute th...Another good, and thoughtful post. For a minute though there, you had me worried.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15428727065347379281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-37140553911125882072014-08-20T19:39:22.729+01:002014-08-20T19:39:22.729+01:00Thougful post and thoughtful replies. The old Blac...Thougful post and thoughtful replies. The old Black Dog is such a friendly thing that he's asleep by your fireside before you know it and we feed him and water him without a thought until it's too late.<br />Suicides? I don't think they're brave or cowardly, they've just reached the stage where it seems the logical (sometimes only, sometimes desirable) solution. They'll not be damned or burn in purgatory. If there is a God, I'm sure He or She or It will understand. <br />It's an illness, not a weakness and it's barely understood. Unfortunately it's also becoming quite the thing among some groups and is just fine for attracting attention. Now that's a thing to be condemned.GaryAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06963552380378929829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-52086438725935896502014-08-20T19:09:30.876+01:002014-08-20T19:09:30.876+01:00Even with professional help Clinical Depression is...Even with professional help Clinical Depression is a terrible thing. It comes at will, can linger long and make one long to be free of the pain. Some choose to end their lives. I suffer from it and at times feel like it would be better to end it all. Obviously I haven't made that choice yet. But one never knows when I'll have had enough and just go.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01681799401614263953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-28037544062498990282014-08-20T18:53:09.864+01:002014-08-20T18:53:09.864+01:00Well said. I find depression is more likely to hit...Well said. I find depression is more likely to hit when things are going well.PatGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00379668269395518541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8316437260668122878.post-40639323192250611212014-08-20T18:47:20.025+01:002014-08-20T18:47:20.025+01:00Thoughtful post, Sir. I've lost several friend...Thoughtful post, Sir. I've lost several friends to depression. Robin, although not a friend, is yet another terrible loss. I have fond memories of his USO shows and how he added color and merriment to deployments. <br />Suicide is not ever an answer, but I cannot call any who tried or succeeded cowards. They are all very brave for that couple of seconds. I wish Robin, and my friends who were successful in the attempt, could know how many were left missing them.<br /><br />@Andrew- keep Rucking on , buddy. I have a bucket list to fulfill upon my retirement. Top on the list is traveling to England and going to a convention or two and meeting and perhaps gaming with a few blooger friends there. You and the Rejects are on the top of the list! Don't tick off the Indians, as G A Custer can attest to! ;)david bromleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15373599516429004062noreply@blogger.com